tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10152513.post6067560843471363338..comments2023-06-18T04:51:29.493-06:00Comments on Katie's Words: Faith UpdateKatiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16981415125894714419noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10152513.post-29263360177627699192010-02-08T20:07:37.274-07:002010-02-08T20:07:37.274-07:00I was thinking of something all profound but its g...I was thinking of something all profound but its gone. I'm glad you've been able to come to some conclusion for yourself.Marlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18268608957275481779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10152513.post-61202098459851234492010-02-07T20:41:12.137-07:002010-02-07T20:41:12.137-07:00Are you leaving the church too, or just looking fo...Are you leaving the church too, or just looking for a supplement?Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16981415125894714419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10152513.post-36507455632510071202010-02-07T20:26:48.026-07:002010-02-07T20:26:48.026-07:00I'll be visiting a UU church this weekend - th...I'll be visiting a UU church this weekend - they also welcome agnostics and atheists.GoddessofBirthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04162699361559626758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10152513.post-59926747197180110012010-02-06T09:31:07.974-07:002010-02-06T09:31:07.974-07:00I highly doubt I'd get all zealous and think t...I highly doubt I'd get all zealous and think that anyone is going to outer darkness :-D Even while I was 100% TBM, I never believed that what we did here would be the sole determining factor. I read Bruce R. McConkie's writings about there being 'no second chance' in heaven, and I just didn't believe it. Of course, I guess that's still insulting, because I'm saying that I think nonbelievers need a second chance. Don't take it that way -- this is really hard to articulate :-)<br /><br />Even if I get all TBM again, I intend to retain all the lessons I've learned while on this journey, including the fact that most people are very good, how we treat others is the most important thing, and that a person's (lack of) religion generally has little effect on how they treat others.<br /><br />If I did leave, I could definitely see myself attending another *church*, but not believing in a *religion*, similar to what you're doing now.Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16981415125894714419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10152513.post-62051361791995544812010-02-06T08:54:05.647-07:002010-02-06T08:54:05.647-07:00I kind of assumed you'd stay with the church. ...I kind of assumed you'd stay with the church. Not for any particular reason. It just seems like a good place for you right now. And that's okay. You do what you have to do. And I'll be here either way. <br /><br />(Of course, I do have the tiny fear that you'll get all zealous at some point and we WON'T be able to be friends just because we won't understand each other anymore, and you'll think I'm all outer darkness-bound and I'll think you're all...crazy. But I don't really think that will happen. :)<br /><br />As you know, I definitely understand the feeling that if it's not the LDS church, it's nothing. You know that I felt the same way and that's why I'm basically an atheist. But I disagree that it has to be like that. If you still believe in God, you can just have God. S/He doesn't have to belong to a church. Most people I know believe in God but don't go to church. It's all about your approach. <br /><br />And if you want a church, there are other churches that might work for you, like UU, where "belief" is not required so much as community and social action, and all spiritual traditions are honored. <br /><br />But for me it was certainly true that I didn't leave the church until I was pretty sure there wasn't a god. Before that point, it wasn't happening. And even though I participate with the Quakers, my basic sense of non-theism hasn't changed, and my relationship with them has nothing to do with gods. So I get that.Chandellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02469510353021344718noreply@blogger.com